Chris Christie NEEDS to Run !!!! For the Sake of our Country ! Nothing more, nothing less.

Agreed, but not right now. I think Rubio can be more effective where he's at rather than playing second fiddle. As a Senator he would have more clout than a V.P. I'd like to see him in a White House roll in 2016, after he passes the D.C baptism of fire. By then he should be a power house!

Greg,...as you can see, not much substance, they do the same with anyone else they hate....or fear.

Since appearance seems to be priority, in the post so far.

Guess I would vote for a fat guy over big ears that cannot hear a damn thing and keeps repeating the same rhetoric over and over and over trying to convince everyone to believe his ----.

I think snoking is pretty nasty, too, and a health issue. I'm glad that he took his addiction to nicotine seriously and did something about it. I would suggest that Christie deal with his problem, too.

the man "Tell's it like it is" and Liberal/Progressives can't stand that.

"feel good" wins with liberal/progressives ( that is as long as someone else pays for it).

The last thing this country needs now is a guy who can't make the trek from one end of the west wing to the other without stopping for oxygen and a cheeseburger.

Why not? Why do you care? New slogan "a cheeseburger in every pot". But not for petty people.

Are you talking about Gov Humpty Dumpty?

THE NEXT POSTING ON HOW SOMEONE LOOKS WILL GET DELETED.

And then right after that threat

Guess I would vote for a fat guy over big ears that cannot hear a damn thing

So are you going to delete my-pockets comment like you deleted littledog or ryoushi's? Or do you let that one slide because he's on your side?

I thought it was brilliant of Gov. Christie to bring up the fact that when obama was Illinois State Senator obama was lambasting the govt. at the time for dividing people, rich against poor, black against white, etc., exactly what pres. obama is now doing to our country. What hypocrisy from obama.

Yeah, Heidi, the TEA GOP doesn't have any divisive rhetoric AT ALL.

/ s

Without divisive rhetoric, the TEA GOP wouldn't exist.

I have no problem with deleting anyone due to their comments about his appearance. You made the rule. Buy in 3.5 my-pockets makes an ear comment about the POTUS and you let it slide. Why?

So you allow some people to be nasty and sarcastic and not others? Look I have no problem if you delete people because they are being off topic or for any damn reason really. But when you state a rule and enforce it only on those who are talking about the man you support and let a snide comment from the other side slide...well it shows more about your character than those of the people you've deleted (who I agree...were derailing and being deliberately obtuse)

So its ok to make appearance jokes...as long as they're about a candidate you don't support. Got it.

Reported

It doesn't matter what they said...it matters what you said. You said

THE NEXT POSTING ON HOW SOMEONE LOOKS WILL GET DELETED.

But you didn't delete all the posts about how someone looks. You let the post about big eared Obama slide. And other posts on this thread about Christie looking like a beach ball with legs (though he did apologize)

The point is you are not moderating fairly...either no one makes any comment about someone's looks or everyone can. Thats my beef...regardless of how vile and childish (and they were childish...but hardly vile) ryoushi and littlereddog were being you deleted them and let other people (who coincidentally support your candidate) get away with it.

What it tells me is that you let some get away with breaking your rules and not others. And that you don't mind any other candidate than yours getting made fun of...and that you have some personal issue with fat jokes.

So wait...you engage with me in a conversation about a specific subject. Then when you grow bored with it you warn me to go back on topic with threat of deletion (as if the HINT could be taken any other way)

Ok...I think Christie is a decent candidate but has yet to do anything that would earn my confidence as him being the POTUS. He handled a hurricane well...aside from that he has done massive damage to the NJ educational system. He goes against many traditional Republican ideas, yet still would rather see a generation of uneducated children and homeless mother's with babies than he does to support schools and let women make their own choices. Aside from that I do not trust his health in office...a man with that little respect for himself does not inspire confidence in me nor do I think that a man with so little self control could run a country. I don't want my POTUS to die in office and I think that the way he treats himself is rather disgusting and vile.

Now...back to OUR conversation. Are you going to enforce fairly? Or just treat better those that think the same way politically as you?

Greg, I can see by all the deletions that our Left leaning vine members have no argument, as usual. In fact, I suspect those people are here just to sabotage you seed. if any conservatives pulled this crap on a Liberal thread Tyler and Sally would have a field day.

I think you should report these folks to Newsvine, especially littlereddog for belligerently baiting you. Nowhere in your opening remarks, and the video is there mention of Christy's weight. Who gives a @!$%# what he tips out at. It's a very weak argument. No wait, it's doesn't even qualify as an argument.

Yes, Greg, morbid. It's a medical description of his weight. Don't believe me, look up the BMI charts. It is NOT healthy to be that large and it will effect his health and his life span.

..or Grover Cleveland for that matter.

These people can't find anything BAD to say about how Christie is handling things with his iron glove in NJ so they have to bash his looks.

I've never felt a big need to consider Christie - he seems quickly labeled as a RINO or something by his own party when he comes up (see post 17).

thelopes I don't think he will run. I DO, however, think that the frenzy around the possibility of him running will make the other candidates take a good hard look at just what it is about Christie that everyone seems to like.

Christie isn't going anywhere. Just like Trump. Just like Palin. Just like Pawlenty. Just like Bachmann. Just like Perry. Just like Fred Thompson in 08. Face it, there is NOBODY on the right that will please the right people. If they please the teabags, they lose independents. If they choose Romney, they will lose the evangelicals. It is a big problem for them.

I wouldn't want to be a delegate at the GOP convention this year! The only one who can pull in the independents, the TEA Party and the moderate left is Ron Paul and you KNOW they won't nominate him.

Fortunately.

Yeah, fortunately for OBAMA

Yeah, fortunately for OBAMA

I was thinking it was fortunate for those who don't want to see freedom of religion cases unincorporated from the states. :P

Fat is not the only thing we don't like about Christy. Why are his ratings so low NG? They hate him there.

So whats wrong with all the other right wing Baggers running? I thought Republicans were so smart?

I know the unions don't like him because he finally made them to start paying a little something toward their blue-ribbon benefits, instead of the NJ taxpayers picking up their entire tab.

Touche'

I live in Jersey. What the @!$%# do you think he's done for us?? Cut school funding. Screwed up an application for Federal funding for the schools. Rails against teachers as if they are the enemy. He's a jerk. The only thing he's done well was handling the Hurricane. I can't fault his performance with that crisis. But I think he's a heartless bastard in general.

And his weight IS an issue. We don't need a President who is 5 minutes from a heart attack and can't give a speech without using the podium to hold himself up. He isn't healthy enough to handle the most stressful job in the country.

Making Public employee's contribute something to there own Healthcare and Pension is a bad thing ?

No, bad-mouthing them and trying to make them out to be evil wellfare cases IS a bad thing.

Gov Christie is not your typical Republican who is usually on the defensive, afraid of saying the wrong thing, weighing their words very-- very-- carefully, like mushmouth John McCain, sorry, but he is the reason we got stuck with obama. Liberals aren't used to dealing with a Republican that has a big mouth and isn't afraid to use it. We need more big mouths like Gov. Christie and unless Republicans stop being afraid on go on the attack like the liberals do all the time (think Debbie Wasserman Schultz),, they will get crucified by the obama democrat propaganda machine.

Yeah, he did that repeatedly.

making a list of his accomplishments, policies and that what he advocates???

Really? What were all the accomplishments and such that the country elected President Obama on? His 2 years as a Freshman Senator that he was mostly on the campaign trail during? The community organizer thing?

Oh, I get it, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Got it.

Yup. The TEA folk won't like Christie once they realize he's more moderate than Romney.

TheJonesGirl

Yup. The TEA folk won't like Christie once they realize he's more moderate than Romney.

He actually put a "mooslim terrorist sympathizer" on the State Supreme Court! That's not "moderate" to the TEAFolk, that's closer to a "kenyan socialist" action.

BINGO! Does anyone what to see more boos in a debate? Imagine Christie trying to explain hiring a Muslim American to the courts to those Baggers. Christie does not seem like the kind of candidate who will take the boos well and he will give them as good as he get. It could get UGLY. But I'd watch while I eat butter popcorn.

It seems to me that Christie is one of the ONLY politicians - repub OR dem - who do NOT just say what he thinks people want to hear. His intense dedication to fiscal responsibility NO MATTER WHAT THE PARTIES THINK is which i find most appealing about him.

But I do NOT think he would get the Republican nomination. I DO agree with greg that the country needs him.

Those were my thoughts, as well, kjm :)

For those making a case about his weight - I'm guessing age might be a factor in his favor. Also, are you saying that if an existing sitting President developed a weight issue, then he is no longer qualified for the position? What about other government positions of importance; has weight ever been a prejudice for running for those positions? (..and consider there is 'no' back-up for them, as there would be for a President)

Well I think that all those liberals who support the Americans with Disabilities Act are being a little hypocritical here. Whatever happened to All Men Are Created Equal?

Does the Contitution require a clean bill of health to run for the office of President?

Does the Contitution require a clean bill of health to run for the office of President?

No, but people freaking whined when Obama wasn't wearing a suit-jacket in the Oval Office.

Everybody's going to carry their own prejudices about they want from a candidate, and some of them are going to be vain or superficial.

He may not have the eloquence, the "appeaser demeanor," the sophistication that some want... nor, thankfully, does he appear to have the sophistry, that we usually get.

Then again, remember the great current orator we have now, thanks to the invention of the teleprompter.

Everybody's going to carry their own prejudices about they want from a candidate, and some of them are going to be vain or superficial.

Which is the only sentiment the trolls on this thread have offered up.

So, Spike, are you saying that Obama is the only president of late to use a prompter?

That being mentioned simply proves that the person bringing it up has no valid points to make.

And what valid points have you brought up. LOL!

Lets face it, it isn't that you Lefty's don't like him because of his weight, you don't like him because he doesn't put with any crap from Left wingers, and doesn't talk out of ass like your buddy in the White House. Weather it's Cristie or some other Conservative this country needs a straight talker, not someone who plays the blame game and takes a vacation every 6 weeks. While your buddy threw Weiner under a bus he was up to more of his underhanded bull@!$%#. If only you knew.

Good point, Virgil. My comment was in response to the Jacksonville guy who got himself deleted. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, Jones Girl, that it was deleted prior to you seeing it and putting up your insulting little post as opposed to your usual comments that lack any benefit to the conversation.

Yeah, Gary, because going on about the use of a prompter--which pretty much every speaker uses--is such a great important conversation.

Face it, you righties have nothing. 2012 will be a miserable year for you guys. Can't wait.

President Clinton (Extra cheese on that Big Mac, please) had his own weight issues before, during and after also. He survived.

President Clinton (Extra cheese on that Big Mac, please) had his own weight issues before, during and after also. He survived.

LOL...seriously??!! You are comparing an extra 20-30 lbs with an extra 200-300!!!!!! Puhleeze!!!!

Did you miss the part about the other people getting deleted for making fun of his looks?

Sorry, I should not make fun of his looks, but I do have a concern about his weight. I personally consider his obesity a negative. Obesity runs in my family and with the obesity has come diabetes heart problems and a myriad of other health problems.

What name did he call him? He simply described what the man looks like. That's not calling him a name.

Just make jokes about Obama's looks Stevie. Greg wont delete those

And 3.20 :)

How cute. The people that make fun of Pelosi's, Hillary Clinton's and Michelle Obama's looks are suddenly upset that Chris Christie is being judged. LMAO! The hypocrisy is astounding.

Michelle Obama's looks

No @!$%#! That caboose of hers is something else.

http://fitbie.msn.com/2011/10/04/america-not-ready-plus-size-president?GT1=50002

"He’s just too fat” to be president,” opined Michael Kinsley of Bloomberg News, who added that Christie should get his appetite “under control” before making a run.

Where is it in the Constitution does it state that a President can't be over weight? Kinsley is an idiot.

As are the others on here that insist on trying to make this article about Christie's weight.

Thank you, Grim. I didn't know that he supported those issues. Too bad, because a "people's politician/Leader" would be something interesting and new to try - maybe?!

greg... ...the difference is the type of things that the GOP big wigs and most voters of the Reps/Tea Party like and dis-like. Perry is falling because of his comments on immigrations. Also like some said, Christie backs Muslims and for some strange reason, a lot of voters of that said hate that. Christie even call those people a nasty name.

ROFL. You seem to have conveniently forgotten that we were already ON life-support when he inherited Bush's mess! And there is no intervention coming. Neither side actually knows how to fix the economy...they just say they do. What they really want is power and money. I just prefer to give it to the side that doesn't ALSO want to take away by human rights on top of it.

mighty... of course we care about his health. You will never see a group of Liberals cheering for the death of someone like Reps/Tea Party did during that debate.

Also didn't yop Reps back Bush's policies like the pesty Iraq war which did nothing positive except make all of the major Defense Corps rich beyond their dreams and those tax cuts for the wealthy that added Billions to the deficit.

unless you acknowledge what the problem is you will never fix it. As long as obama gets away with his "I inherited a mess" instead of acknowledging that he and the democrats who controlled both houses of congress for TWO years when obama took ofc had a big part in that mess.

This is the thing....Obama said he could fix problems that he knew existed, but he hasn't! When do you all stop believing in this man? Give it up!

Obama said he could fix problems that he knew existed

And if he can't when his 8 years are over then you can whine about it. It isn't like Bush left the country any better after HIS time. None of these people knows how to fix the economy. They may think they do, but they don't. Generally the politicians aren't terribly smart....just charismatic. Hell, the Republicans have stopped even pretending they are smart and are trying to run on pure stupid. I'm smarter than Obama (and probably 90% of the presidents we've had) and I have no clue how to fix this mess. But I'll tell you one thing, taking money from the poor and basic human rights from women is NOT going to help.

This is the thing....Obama said he could fix problems that he knew existed, but he hasn't! When do you all stop believing in this man? Give it up!

What do you think Obama has actually been able to do, exactly?

Also, I don't happen to remember him saying he could do it with a snap of his fingers.

What do you think Obama has actually been able to do, exactly?

Nothing, absolutely nothing!

What do you think Obama has actually been able to do, exactly?

Nothing due to the blue dog democrats and their bretheren....conservatives.

What do you think Obama has actually been able to do, exactly?

Nothing, absolutely nothing!

Right- so if he's been unable to do anything, can you criticize him for not being successful?

Liberals have one of their own (Rahm) to thank for thinking that a Blue dog republicrat would actually vote for the peoples best interest to they got off easy when the bus ran over them. They are why democrats didn't really control of both houses since they voted republican a high percentage of the time.

No they needed politicians that would tow the republican line given to them and to have a D besides your name creates doubt.

ust like Andrew Breitbarts offer of thousands of dollars to anyone that could back up their false claims of racism during Nancy Pelosi's cake walk with her two ton gavel waving it in peoples faces, insulting them,

wtf?

Is that English?

It's right from the Palin Book of the English Language. A classic example I would say.

PaPa23 wrote:

It's right from the Palin Book of the English Language. A classic example I would say.

You beat me to it.

It's Palinese.

Sounds like the talking points got garbled.

He could be a good candidate if he can keep the skeletons in the closet and if he garners the support of fox news...rightwing radio.

DS12-

Much like our sitting president (a reflection in the miirror, of course). Then again, he can't play the 'I'm not Bush' card this time around.

Sorry Spikegary

Christie has been paid for he just needs to decide if the public will like what is in the closet? Koch brothers for one and a closer scrutiny of his record in NJ for another.

Proof? Links? Or just a feeling?

BTW, Christie said no earlier today.

Proof...the meeting they had and yes I now know he said no.....Now back to the circus.

So, pretty much nothing but a suspicion. Kind of where I thought you were coming from.

DS12 -

Christie has been paid for he just needs to decide if the public will like what is in the closet? Koch brothers for one and a closer scrutiny of his record in NJ for another.

You want to open up hat can of worms? This is a list of Obama contributors.

Goldman Sachs - SEC violations.

JP Morgan - Tied to Bernie Madoff.

Citigroup - Ponzi scheme.

Time Warner - Accounting fraud.

Sidley Austin partner - Marketing of illegal tax shelters.

Wilmer Hale :

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/political-favors-with-taxpayers-money-law-firm-bailout-scandal-deepens

At the center of some of the various scandals swirling around the Obama Administration is a common thread that links them all--political favors are delivered to Obama supporters with taxpayers' money. The latest scandal involving the bailout of the Wilmer Hale Law Firm in Boston depicts more of the 'crony capitalism' that characterizes the manner in which the Administration does business.

Wilmer Hale is set to receive $214 million dollars from the taxpayers to cover its losses stemming from a case in which the law firm failed to comply with the statute of limitations. The error meant that Wilmer Hale lost the case and was liable for the 214 million. Large law firms carry malpractice insurance, and thus, the money would actually come from the company that insures Wilmer Hale against 'errors and omissions.'

Skaden Arps LLP :

http://www.bankr.co.uk/2010/04/20/skadden-lawyer-hired-to-defend-goldman-as-pressure-mounts/

Skadden Lawyer Hired to Defend Goldman as Pressure Mounts

He also happens to be Barack Obama's former White House Counsel…

http://aconstantineblacklist.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-jerseys-gov-corzine-mired-in_255.html

CEO of Goldman Sachs

In office
1994–1999

Succeeded by
Henry Paulson

UBS AG - http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9Q2C7L00.htm

Morgan Stanley - Insider trading and Chinese real estate scandal.

And let's not exclude the puppet master himself.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/04/soros_obama_and_the_millionair.html

Soros and his family gave Barack Obama $60,000. This does not include money that Soros was able to funnel to so-called 527 groups (Moveon.org, for example)....

Maybe it's Obama skeletons that should be scrutinized, not Christie's.

for the sake of our country go live in Germany with the rest of the tea party radicals and make pretend it's 1944 Gov. Christie.

More Left wing paranoia. Oh that's right, Tea Party members are Nazi's. (sarc)