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The leader of an armed, radical Islamic group out of west Africa, Hamada Ould Mohamed Kheirou, declared “war” against France Thursday over what he calls French hostility towards Islam. The threat came in a video reportedly seen by AFP journalists and is not the first time the jihadist group has vowed to wage war with the increasingly Islamized France.
Such a peaceful bunch. Just like "Liberal/progressives" here in this country!
#1 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:13 AM ESTRotf Greg!!
These people are crazy. Why can't they be content with their own country, why do they feel they have to transform another country into what THEY feel it should be?
What's this obsession with spreading your religion onto another country, then threatening said country when it fails to fall in line?
They're just jealous of the "haves" as they "have not", sooo, they want everyone to "have not". They keep forgetting though, it's their own leaders that make sure they "have not".
Wierd bunch for sure. Does have a familiar ring to it again, don't it.
They have declared jihad against their historical enemies, the Crusaders. What they are forgetting though, is that while these jihadists are capable of doing limited regional damage mostly to civilian targets, France, has an atomic arsenal, despite their protestations to the contrary, has not forgotten their humiliation in Viet Nam, will unleash them in West Africa.
These people are crazy. Why can't they be content with their own country, why do they feel they have to transform another country into what THEY feel it should be?
oddly that's exactly Islamic fundies complaint about the west...
They have declared jihad against their historical enemies, the Crusaders
hopefully France swats these militants down quickly and forcefully... last thing this world needs is an all out religious war
Sir Charles Napier
What's this obsession with spreading your religion onto another country,
That is their obsession, just as it is the command of Christ to the Christians to go out to all the nations. Of course Christ said to do it with love and Mohammad said to do it at the end of a sword. They are not a very inclusive little cult. But again neither is Christianity though Christ does not teach that we should enslave those that refuse him, more like you just walk away knocking the dust from your sandals as you leave.
The last part of the video reportedly focused on the group’s ideology and ambitions, specifically, “to impose shari’ah [Islamic law] across the whole of west Africa.” According to AFP, the video depicts young African fighters calling for “pure and tough” Islam.
Hmmmmm....."Pure".....Where Have I heard that before...................
Got it! The Nazi mantra thingy. Whew, and I thought the Religion of Islam was radical.
Why, Yes it is !!!! Holy Cow!
#2 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:18 AM ESTCome on Greg you cant demonize Islam since:
"Muslim radicals as those who say the 9/11 attack was "completely justified," which was seven percent of the sample. However, there were two other categories of respondents who said that the attack was at least partially justified, and they are labeled by the authors as "moderates." The first of those groups comprises 6.5 percent of the sample, the second comprises 23.1 percent. Further, the respondents in that last category, making up 23.1 percent, also said that they hate America, want to impose Sharia law, support suicide bombing, and oppose equal rights for women."
So out of 1.5 plus billion muslims in the world 37 percent, over half a billion, hate us and want Sharia law imposed on the rest of the world and think suicide bombings are the norm and oppose womens rights but always remember most are not radicals only 550 million of them wish us dead but you cant condem them as a group it is only 37 percent of them. Wow what a wonderful religion(sar)!!
LOL!
A 550 million man army is one heck of a group army !
And we worry about china with a billion man army. At least they stay home. This group keeps going out for grocery's.
Let's see. Islam is 600 years younger than 'Christianity',so let me just ask this. Where was Christianity 600 years ago and what was going on? Yeah,I thought so. Same thing. The only difference is that now there are more potent ways of killing people who do not believe the same as they do. Back then,Christians were killing people for simply not being one of them also.
lol. You could go with 'Christianity' in which a pastor in L.A. was recently found guilty of $14.2 million Medicare fraud and sentenced to 15 years. Or that God only speaks to derrrr rrright(those voices aren't God).
koresh,mcveigh,jim jones,were all 'Christians',but,you will give the arguement that they weren't. Why? They just aren't. It doesn't matter what religion you're in,there are extremist interpretations in all of them.
Go ahead,justify ________(whatever issue du jour is).
Heilll rrright!!! Dey vill alvays be rrright,but very rarely correct.
Bring on the irrelevant issues,bashing,spinning,and name-calling. I know it's coming. You betcha' ;)
" Where was Christianity 600 years ago"
Now that is some Sherlock H. deduction lets compare the 1400 hundreds to 2012 and see if we can justify 37 percent(550,000) of Muslims hating and wanting to destroy America/Americans.
Let's see. Islam is 600 years younger than 'Christianity',so let me just ask this. Where was Christianity 600 years...
yep, in 5...4...3....2...1
so predictable. Mention jihadist and the left deflects...just like clockwork.
Back then,Christians were killing people for simply not being one of them also.
I guess you don't understand what I said. They consider Americans to be not one of them.
I am talking about the evolution of a RELIGION,NOT PEOPLE. You look back at what was happening in Christianity 600 years ago. That is how old Islam is right now. Pretty much the same thing is happeneing right now. Any questions? Ask yourself. I know how y'all have a tough time with simple math references.
Even the other night on faux the knucklehead had to use a calculator to simply do the math and find the difference was 13. He tried and tried and had to go to commercial,by simply failing to know how to use a calculator.
Y'all halve sum brite reeporders. Queep wachend end lisseneng.
If you're going to quote me,quote the entire sentence. Y'all love to take portions and break them up as if that's all I asked and it's misrepresenting my statement. I ask nicely only once so here it is. Please don't quote partial sentences. The entire sentence or don't bother because partial quotes=irrelevant spinning.
Just as i thought. Y'all can't quote whole sentences,put your sppin on it,AND sound sensible.
Bi,bi next year. You betcha' ;)
Being "hostile" to islam is not granting them special rights!
#4 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:04 AM ESTWait for it here folks because it is coming to a neighborhood near you. Using Religious Tolerance, which the United States is supposedly famous for, this Intolerant Religion will use our Constitutional Laws against us much as the ILLEGAL ALIENS are successfully doing right now.
#5 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:07 AM ESTwow !
a bunch of Islamic nutters declaring war on France...
not unlike some christian nutters do here in the US.
same coin , different sides.
Family Research Council's Declaration Of Theocratic War
The Family Research Council — an arm of the militant Religious Right in the United States — has, essentially, declared war on the US. Specifically, they've declared a theocratic war on the secular government of this country. Their effort includes the launch of a special Web site called Replace Repeal Restore! (WebCite cached version). The preamble to their declaration of theocratic war is as follows:
God's Next Army
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzCIduBvl1I&p=596B2A143DC53EB4&playnext=1&index=29
Religious intolerance among conservative Christians:
A few conservative Christians have made statements that categorize other religious groups as evil, degenerate, sub-human and/or hated by God. Some examples are:
- A former Southern Baptist president told two large meetings recently that God does not listen to the prayers of a Jew.
- A Baptist minister in Texas has allegedly called for the mass murder of Wiccans by napalm.
-An Evangelical minister explained that there are two groups in the world: the children of God (those who are saved), and the children of the devil (everyone else).
-Another stated that New Age beliefs are another attempt by Satan to pollute Christianity, promote immorality and foster unethical attitudes.
-Still another stated that non-Christians hate God, love sin, and don't care whether anyone is struggling with sin or not.
-A prominent televangelist called for the round up and extermination of all Wiccans by the U.S. Federal government.
-Buddhism, Hinduism and other Eastern religions have frequently been described as variations of Satanism.
We have not been able to find any comparable statements by mainline or liberal Christians.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/relintol2.htm
Christian Extremism Is Undermining America
http://www.prosebeforehos.com/government_employee/06/01/christian-extremism-is-undermining-america/
The Tim McVeigh and the Christian Identity Connection
http://www.sullivan-county.com/identity/cal_shoot.htm
Evidence gathered by the Associated Press includes hotel receipts, a speeding ticket, prisoner interviews, informant reports and phone records that suggest McVeigh had contact with a white supremacist compound in Oklahoma known as Elohim City and that members there were familiar with his plan.
"It is suspected that members of Elohim City are involved either directly or indirectly through conspiracy," federal agents wrote in one memo just days after McVeigh detonated a truck bomb April 19, 1995, outside the Alfred P. Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City and killed more than 160 people.
The documents also include a teletype from FBI headquarters in August 1996 that reported McVeigh called Elohim City two weeks before his bombing, a call to a home where members of a violent Aryan Nation bank robbery gang were present.
McVeigh made the call April 5, 1995, moments after calling the Ryder truck company where he rented the truck that carried his deadly bomb. The government had known from an informant weeks before McVeigh's call that members of Elohim City were threatening an attack, the documents show.
The FBI teletype revealed that the gang members who were present when McVeigh called were familiar with explosives and had made a videotape three months before McVeigh struck vowing a war against the federal government and promising a "courthouse massacre."
The Murrah Building was directly across the street from the federal courthouse in Oklahoma City.
http://www.rickross.com/reference/mcveigh/mcveigh25.html
http://www.rickross.com/groups/mcveigh.html
just some examples of nutters.
#6 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:52 AM ESTActions speak louder than words, and Mcdoogle is the one that did the action, ONCE!
Seems the Islamic radicals are more into "Action" than they are words. :)
How are those 3000 deaths on 911 doing for ya, which doesn't include all the other deaths around the world because of these idiots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSfYmBCzIOo&feature=fvwrel
Or any other attack they perform in the name of Islam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iC0TQPCv9U&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50CKRJUXjzc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Arygbjzob0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkWDLY1coRs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jBPbzssO-I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcik3jPcKKo
They're all over the world, with no remorse for what they do. It's all in the name of Islam.
And my Fav.:
ripley, you're changing the subject. Greater concern should be paid to the seeded article, don't you think?
The Sharia Paranoia Industry is very lucrative
http://ikhwanophobia.com/2011/08/the-sharia-paranoia-industry-is-very-lucrative/
REPORT: $42 Million From Seven Foundations Helped Fuel The Rise Of Islamophobia In America
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/08/26/304306/islamophobia-network/
#7 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:52 AM ESTFunny you can still say that with a straight face Rip. Islamic groups declaring war on France shortly after the French govt. announces cutting way back on immigration. And you still claim it's paranoia? Just this morning I heard a piece on NPR this morning that the French are worried as hell about Islam in their country.
As well they should be. Start watching this situation like a hawk because I predict that parts of France are going to go up in flames. This is NOT a religion of peace and love.
This is NOT a religion of peace and love
and christianity is ? lmfao !
George W. Bush has used the word "Crusade" to describe his war against the people he calls "evildoers." Bush clearly believes that the United States of America is a Christian nation, and that the government should be used to promote Christian religious projects.
General Wesley Clark reports in his latest book that the White House has drawn up a list of exclusively Muslim nations to target as enemies over the next four years (Afghanistan, Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and the Sudan - two down, six to go).
Bush says that he's fighting against terrorism everywhere, yet refuses to touch Christian terrorist groups, even those that are organizing within the United States. Bush seems only interested in fighting Muslim terrorists.
In Iraq, a government-paid chaplain has been baptizing American soldiers as Christians in exchange for giving them water to take showers.
Now, it has been discovered that one of Bush's top generals in his wars against evildoers, General William G. Boykin, believes that these wars are being fought against Satan himself. In public, this military officer and aide to Bush insists that the mission of the American military is to defeat Islam in the name of Christianity. So far, the Bush White House has refused to distance itself from Boykin's claim, and defends Boykin's appropriation of the American military for religious purposes as "free speech".
http://irregulartimes.com/holywarriorbush.html
A MIXTURE OF CARING AND CORRUPTION
Church Orphanages and Industrial Schools
http://www.nospank.net/coldrey.htm
Videos: 'Miracle Ranch' and 'Oasis Orphanage': 2nd Tijuana 'Christian' Orphanage Accused Of Child Abuse Still Funded By U.S. Donors
http://usqueers.com/str2/?p=61
Christian Orphanage head held for raping minors
Posted March 1, 2004
http://www.christianaggression.org/item_di...p;id=1078174795
we could be here all day ... not just with christian orphanages . Let's not forget those abusive christian foster homes.
Heretics
Already in 385 C.E. the first Christians, the Spanish Priscillianus and six followers, were beheaded for heresy in Trier/Germany [DO26]
Manichaean heresy: a crypto-Christian sect decent enough to practice birth control (and thus not as irresponsible as faithful Catholics) was exterminated in huge campaigns all over the Roman empire between 372 C.E. and 444 C.E. Numerous thousands of victims. [NC]
Albigensians: the first Crusade intended to slay other Christians. [DO29]
The Albigensians (cathars = Christians allegedly that have all rarely sucked) viewed themselves as good Christians, but would not accept roman Catholic rule, and taxes, and prohibition of birth control. [NC]
Begin of violence: on command of pope Innocent III (greatest single pre-nazi mass murderer) in 1209. Bezirs (today France) 7/22/1209 destroyed, all the inhabitants were slaughtered. Victims (including Catholics refusing to turn over their heretic neighbours and friends) 20,000-70,000. [WW179-181]
Carcassonne 8/15/1209, thousands slain. Other cities followed. [WW181]
subsequent 20 years of war until nearly all Cathars (probably half the population of the Languedoc, today southern France) were exterminated. [WW183]
After the war ended (1229) the Inquisition was founded 1232 to search and destroy surviving/hiding heretics. Last Cathars burned at the stake 1324. [WW183]
Estimated one million victims (cathar heresy alone), [WW183]
Other heresies: Waldensians, Paulikians, Runcarians, Josephites, and many others. Most of these sects exterminated, (I believe some Waldensians live today, yet they had to endure 600 years of persecution) I estimate at least hundred thousand victims (including the Spanish inquisition but excluding victims in the New World).
Spanish Inquisitor Torquemada alone allegedly responsible for 10,220 burnings. [DO28]
John Huss, a critic of papal infallibility and indulgences, was burned at the stake in 1415. [LI475-522]
University professor B.Hubmaier burned at the stake 1538 in Vienna. [DO59]
Giordano Bruno, Dominican monk, after having been incarcerated for seven years, was burned at the stake for heresy on the Campo dei Fiori (Rome) on 2/17/1600.
how about lately ?
Catholic extermination camps
Surpisingly few know that Nazi extermination camps in World War II were by no means the only ones in Europe at the time. In the years 1942-1943 also in Croatia existed numerous extermination camps, run by Catholic Ustasha under their dictator Ante Paveli, a practising Catholic and regular visitor to the then pope. There were even concentration camps exclusively for children!
In these camps - the most notorious was Jasenovac, headed by a Franciscan friar - orthodox-Christian serbians (and a substantial number of Jews) were murdered. Like the Nazis the Catholic Ustasha burned their victims in kilns, alive (the Nazis were decent enough to have their victims gassed first). But most of the victims were simply stabbed, slain or shot to death, the number of them being estimated between 300,000 and 600,000, in a rather tiny country. Many of the killers were Franciscan friars. The atrocities were appalling enough to induce bystanders of the Nazi "Sicherheitsdient der SS", watching, to complain about them to Hitler (who did not listen). The pope knew about these events and did nothing to prevent them. [MV]
Catholic terror in Vietnam
In 1954 Vietnamese freedom fighters - the Viet Minh - had finally defeated the French colonial government in North Vietnam, which by then had been supported by U.S. funds amounting to more than $2 billion. Although the victorious assured religious freedom to all (most non-buddhist Vietnamese were Catholics), due to huge anticommunist propaganda campaigns many Catholics fled to the South. With the help of Catholic lobbies in Washington and Cardinal Spellman, the Vatican's spokesman in U.S. politics, who later on would call the U.S. forces in Vietnam "Soldiers of Christ", a scheme was concocted to prevent democratic elections which could have brought the communist Viet Minh to power in the South as well, and the fanatic Catholic Ngo Dinh Diem was made president of South Vietnam. [MW16ff]
Diem saw to it that U.S. aid, food, technical and general assistance was given to Catholics alone, Buddhist individuals and villages were ignored or had to pay for the food aids which were given to Catholics for free. The only religious denomination to be supported was Roman Catholicism.
The Vietnamese McCarthyism turned even more vicious than its American counterpart. By 1956 Diem promulgated a presidential order which read:
"Individuals considered dangerous to the national defense and common security may be confined by executive order, to a concentration camp."
Supposedly to fight communism, thousands of buddhist protesters and monks were imprisoned in "detention camps." Out of protest dozens of buddhist teachers - male and female - and monks poured gasoline over themselves and burned themselves. (Note that Buddhists burned themselves: in comparison Christians tend to burn others). Meanwhile some of the prison camps, which in the meantime were filled with Protestant and even Catholic protesters as well, had turned into no-nonsense death camps. It is estimated that during this period of terror (1955-1960) at least 24,000 were wounded - mostly in street riots - 80,000 people were executed, 275,000 had been detained or tortured, and about 500,000 were sent to concentration or detention camps. [MW76-89].
To support this kind of government in the next decade thousands of American GI's lost their life.
In Rwanda - in Ireland- the natives of America - the war we are in now labled by Bush
Bush said God told him to invade Iraq, Arab leaders say
Palestinian officials confirm comments from documentary
Matthew Kalman, Chronicle Foreign Service
Friday, October 7, 2005
(10-07) 04:00 PDT Jerusalem -- President Bush told two high-ranking Palestinian officials that he had been told by God to invade Afghanistan and Iraq and then create a Palestinian state to bring peace to the Middle East, they recall during a documentary on Middle East peace that airs next week in Britain.
"President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God,' " said Nabil Shaath, who was the Palestinian foreign minister at the time of a top-level meeting with Bush in June 2003. Mahmoud Abbas, then Palestinian prime minister and now the Palestinian Authority president, was also present for the conversation with Bush.
"God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq ...' And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.' And by God I'm gonna do it," Shaath quotes the president as saying in the three-part series.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...MNGNVF3SFM1.DTL
"We are in a conflict between good and evil. And America will call evil by its name," Mr Bush told West Point graduates in a speech last year.
Holy Cow!! How long have you been waiting to spill this bucket full of hate? Your lucky some of it didn't splash back on you! What a total crock. I'm talking today and you bring up ancient history as if it were today.
what FlNutmegger said...Not even worth reading...Hope he didn't spend a lot of time cutting and pasting.
ripley, Dubya is no longer president. And, he was never president of France. This article is about jihadis declaring war on France. It's in Europe.
I see a lot of Muslim families at the parks when I ride my bicycle around town. They seem like a pretty good bunch. Everybody from infants to the elderly at these picnics. Appear to be very family oriented. You really need to get out more. You spout more hatred than any Muslims I've ever met.
#8 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:39 PM ESTNo just reporting the facts. If that is hate, damn there just are no words.
There are plenty of rightwing militias in this country that want to declare war on America. Does that mean all right wingnuts hate America? I find that sort of stereotyping to be pure nonsense.
Like the stereo typing you implied here. That reporting on the ugly facts about Islam is somehow hatred? MMM Hmmm.
You spout more hatred than any Muslims I've ever met.
Go talk to the group that just declared war on France...and if you live through that, get back to us on who is "spouting hate".
Geesh...a jihadist group publicly announces that they plan to commit acts of terrorism against a country that took them in as immigrants in good faith, because the people of that country don't want to be ruled by the laws of the immigrants, but by their own laws in their own land...and you don't think that is hateful?
Do you think American Timothy McVeigh was hateful? Does that mean all American rightwingers are hateful? Get a grip on reality.
The reality is, Jihadist doing there thing for "Islam", don't stop at one terrorist act, they keep on going like the energizer bunny. And they're growing in every country on this earth. The more they are placated and given excuses for, the more they keep on, and on, and on, and on, and.....on ! They know there are sympathizers out there and they love it.
The reality is...this is not one single individual...this is a group of people who have openly declared their hatred for all things not "Islam" and declared their intention to wage war against countries and people who refuse to allow them to take over and run things their way.
Do I think ALL Muslims are hateful? No, of course not.
Do I think ALL terrorists and Muslim jihadists are hateful? Yep. I sure do.
Don't you?
The reality is...this is not one single individual...this is a group
Timothy McVeigh was part of a militia, which is a group. Plenty still exist in this Country.
#9 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:53 AM ESTHow many acts of terrorism have those "militia" groups committed, Borncorn?
Here...for your education:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125862933
That is what is normally a "militia" group in America, people who are concerned about survival of their own families and the country as a whole. Mostly people who live close to the land, who are hunters, fisherman, farmers...people who are used to being self reliant and are becoming increasingly worried that someday they will HAVE to be.
Jihadists and terrorists, on the other hand...are declaring war and planning destruction.
Bet Borncorn is Sympathetic to "A.L.F." and "E.L.F.". They're Liberal terrorists.
How many acts of terrorism have those "militia" groups committed, Borncorn?
A real big one in Oklahoma City, or have you forgotten already?
And, from the NPR article:
Prosecutors say they were training for a mission: The Hutaree allegedly wanted to kill a local policeman and then, when other officers came to pay their respects at his funeral, take out a roster of them by bombing the procession.
#10 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:47 PM ESTTimothy McVeigh was part of a militia, which is a group. Plenty still exist in this Country.
How many acts of terrorism have those "militia" groups committed, Borncorn?
A real big one in Oklahoma City, or have you forgotten already?
Okay, I think it is obvious from the question and answer here that I was asking you what acts of terrorism had been committed by the militia groups which, according to you, are "still out there"...not McVeigh and Terry Nichols in 1995...but we'll let that go, along with the accompanying sarcasm.
There are plenty of rightwing militias in this country that want to declare war on America.
Now...there are plenty of terrorist and Islamic militant groups that want to declare war on America. There are a few out there (and correct me if I'm wrong on this) who kinda sorta already have, you know?
A real big one in New York City, or have you forgotten already?
I see a lot of militia members in the woods when I ride my horse on the trails. They seem like a pretty good bunch. Everybody from young kids on ponies to grandma on older, bombproof trail horses. Appear to be very family oriented. You really need to get out more. You spout more hatred than any militia members I've ever met.
See how that works?
Just explain this one teensy, weensy little thing to me here, okay?
Do you feel you are "spouting hate" when you make comments like that one?
Isn't perhaps a tad hypocritical to claim that people who discuss Islamic terrorists and their latest threats are "spouting hate" against all Muslims and at the same time bring up the militias, the majority of which have never committed an act of violence any worse than shooting Bambi and grilling him at a cookout to eat...which I can't say I highly approve of but then that cow probably didn't enjoy becoming hamburger at Publix either...and imply that because Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist a$$hole then it follows that all militia members are also?
Why do Liberals always want to have it both ways?
I don't think all Muslims are terrorists. I don't think ALL terrorists are Muslims. But SOME Muslims are terrorists and it appears that their numbers are growing, judging from the number of threats, attempts and terrorist attacks that have been happening all over the globe for over a decade now.
Since those threats and attempts are happening right here in this country...it is, or at least it should be, a matter of concern for all Americans to take a good hard look at what is happening in other countries where Muslims have become a significant part of the population and have begun to demand that others abide by their laws, their religious rulings and their inflated sense of their own "rights" in comparison to the rights of others.
You and I might never agree on that...in fact, I am fairly sure we won't. But an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure and I, for one, want to be aware of what is happening with terrorist groups and radical Islamists in other parts of the world...so that just maybe, we can learn a lesson from what they are going through dealing with them and not make the same mistakes so that we don't have the same problems here.
You feel that is spouting hate. I feel it is being informed. Wouldn't the Egyptians have benefited from knowing NOT to follow Moses across the Red Sea?
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